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 Post subject: Vinegaroon Mom & Babies
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:45 am 
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Below is a photo of a vinegaroon mom sharing food with some of its babies. She had a bunch of babies - somewhere between 20 and 30 - and has finally emerged from her burrow to start feeding again. As she grabbed crickets the babies swarmed up to her and grabbed chunks and pieces. At first she was a bit overwhelmed (and no doubt hungry), so she was not being real tolerant and generous - but by about the fourth cricket she was being a good mom.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:26 am 
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Good story, dang nice photo.

Thanks Bill and Jillian.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:17 pm 
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Nice brood! Hey Bill- does M. giganteus typically retain that deep red coloration in adulthood or is this an abberation?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:03 am 
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The adult female in this picture is pretty typical of the adults we see around here. The babies are also typical of the babies. The red coloration starts diminishing by one year old, and is only a hint by two years old. They don't hit adulthood until maybe 5 years.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:25 am 
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Very Nice indeed
I been wanting to have those for quiet sometime
what a cool bugs :D


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:17 pm 
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Very cool photo. It's really interesting for me to see how Mom & Babies feed together. I think one day I'll have to try my hand in keeping these.
They are so fascinating!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:04 am 
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Anette wrote:
Very cool photo. It's really interesting for me to see how Mom & Babies feed together. I think one day I'll have to try my hand in keeping these.
They are so fascinating!


So far she's been mostly just allowing the babies to crowd around and join her in feeding - letting them tear off pieces of the food she's eating. Last year we were able to observe a mother carrying food to the opening of a baby's burrow and reaching into the burrow to alert the baby to the presence of food. It will be interesting to see if that happens this year as the brood starts to disperse.

They really are fascinating animals and we're still discovering how little we know about their behavior.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:18 pm 
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Very cool observations!
And yes - one thing I know for sure is how little I know :o


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:01 pm 
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Wonder if this happens in the wild too? It seems even more intimate than parental care provided by Amblypygids.

I would love to try keeping some of these again...kept a male for a while and he was a blast.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:49 am 
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Wonder if this happens in the wild too? It seems even more intimate than parental care provided by Amblypygids.


That, of course, is the big question. I suspect that when the mother first emerges it does happen. The babies remain in the burrow for a while and it's quite likely that Mom brings home food for herself and probably is at least tolerant of the babies feeding.

Not long after that the babies start to disperse and dig their own burrows. In captivity the burrows, by necessity, are close to the mother's burrow. And in captivity the mother has been observed to carry food items to the burrows of the babies and draw them out to share the food at least several months after dispersal. But as far as I know we don't have observations of this in the wild. It would be very interesting to find out how far the babies disperse in the wild, and how much this affects parental food-offering.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:31 pm 
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Thanks Bill. Neat photo and very interesting. So many interesting creatures out there and so little space and time. :(



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