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 Post subject: Millipede Raffle ID and Care
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:58 pm 
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Hello,

I have never had any millipedes. Can someone ID these and give some care info. I know Wade passed some info on but it was forgotten during the raffle =(. Either way, I definitely want to rehouse them in to something they can stretch out in.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:22 pm 
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Any of the millipede care posts by Wade will be sufficient, although I would like a species ID on these too! Deep substrates, organic foods, and moisture coupled with leaf litter is all they require to survive. To thrive or reproduce over the long haul, more information would be great. I'm looking for info too. :)

If you want A LOT of information, you can purchase Orin's book as well. It is sold directly by Orin or you can find it on Ebay and Amazon too. I suspect I'll be buying a copy shortly.

http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/elytraandantenna/



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 Post subject: Re: Millipede Raffle ID and Care
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:39 pm 
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Wade identified the ones that he won as Narceus americanus and yours look to match the pictures I've found online.
I found many of these around Tucson this year probably because of the heavy rains and resultant humidity. Usually they are found under things - logs, rocks etc. I assume that they are seeking a suitable microclimate providing relief from the heat and humidity. I saw them last week at over six inches in length so you're correct about rehousing them into something more suitable than the shipping container.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:50 pm 
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I have never ever considered millipedes at all. Ever. =p. I am finding myself really excited to learn more about them and really excited at the thought of successful reproduction. I will be looking in to that book Chistian. Thank you!

I also found this book which might be of some inerest.

http://www.amazon.com/Millipedes-Profes ... =pd_cp_b_0

Let me know what you think.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:07 pm 
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I am not familiar with that text, maybe someone in the know can chime in on it.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:34 pm 
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Ollie wrote:
Wade identified the ones that he won as Narceus americanus .....

I found many of these around Tucson this year probably because of the heavy rains and resultant humidity. Usually they are found under things....


Around here (Tucson area) they are called "storm worms" because once the sommer rains appear, so do the millipedes. They're always around, of course, but with the summer rains and humidity they come up to the surface and wander. On damp mornings or evenings we see these guys out crawling across roads and the rest of the countryside.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:57 am 
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Wish I saw more of these in the actual city...very pretty


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:00 pm 
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I'm fairly certain they are Narceus, probably N. americanus. These are wood and detritus feeders, a substrate of rotten hardwood and hardwood leaves (I used to use oak in Virginia, but I've switched to aspen since it is much more common here). Although I do ocassionaly offer veggies, they mainly want rotten wood.

The large millipedes people were finding around Tucson were not Narceus, they were Orthoporus ornatus. These seem to be more enthusiastic about veggies than Narceus, although having some rotten wood in the cge is good for all millies.

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If these are the ones that Elizabeth donated, we might be able to find out when school starts. They were originally given to Elizabeth by a group of third grade teachers at Settler's Way Elementary School. There were many more than Elizabeth wanted to keep so she decided to donate them. Once school reopens we'll ask the teachers.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:41 am 
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Couple of questions. Are the pics belowproofof millipede happiness? Also, do you guys just clear all of that out periodically? These pics were taken late last week so are a bit dated and there isnt much wood left =p. Lucky for them, I "harvested" more ;)

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Looks like Narceus heaven! Obviously they like the wood you found for them.

One tip: Don't throw out the old substrate! They'll lay eggs in it and eventually you'll get babies :)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:50 pm 
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Do you clean out the balls of droppings? Seems like the thing to do but maybe not?


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I wouldn't bother, it's is just part of the break down process from tree to soil...



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What is the lifespan of a millipede anyways?



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Don't throw out the droppings. In many cases the females encase eggs inside a ball of frass that looks like a dropping (I can't remember if Narceus do this, but I think so...).

Millipede droppings are in many way the perfect substrate for millipedes, it holds moisture and the babies need to eat it in order to gain the bennificial bacteria that allow them to digest the celulose in wood. At most, you'd want to remove some when the sheer volume becomes a problem!

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Not sure on lifespan on Narceus, but I'd guess at least 3 years. I've heard that A. gigas can live 10 years or better, although 5-6 years is more typical in my experience.


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Wade,

Do they prefer different types of punky wood?

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As in species? Not that I've noticed, although conifer wood must be really decayed to be appealing. It is good to treat the wood to avoid introducing pests though. Heat is most effective, such as boiling, baking or microwaving.

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Ok but what kind of pests would seriously come in with the wood? Detritivorous mites, isopods, etc. aren't going to hurt pedes.


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Not the adults, but if your desire is to have the millipedes reproduce these other animals can out-compete the baby millipedes. The presence of other detritovores can reduce the rate of survivorship among the offspring, and some may even eat the millipede eggs.


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