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 Post subject: Some Mexican scorpions.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:55 pm 
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side catch in a Arachnid collecting trip.

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for more photos see:
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=199049

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 Post subject: Re: Some Mexican scorpions.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:02 pm 
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I really like the second one Eddy. Where in Mexico did you visit?

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that second one is a cave adapted scorpion.

we visited Mexico DF, Puebla, Vera Cruz, Oaxaca, Chiapas, Michoacan, Guanajuato and Queretaro in some 5 weeks.


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Some very fine photos Eddie. I like the second one too but the last two really pique my interest. You happen to have names for them?



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thanks for sharing. I like the ones with dark bodies and claws, and light legs.


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Patrick wrote:
Some very fine photos Eddie. I like the second one too but the last two really pique my interest. You happen to have names for them?


Sorry, no. i don't know anything of scorpions. we just collected these for the national collection of Mexico. i was stricktly interested in the tarantulas.


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Kari should be able to nail most if not all of these down. I recognize a few from a talk David Sissom did at one of our conferences, but I won't be able to recall the nomenclature.

Nice stuff Eddy.



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i would be impressed if he could ID them all..... Dr Franke was sure 2 of the above are new species. :surprised:


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Ah, great to hear! I'm glad you were able to have a part in the research. When was this trip?



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November 22- December 28. we had permits for all arachnids in the states we planned to visit. we planned this time of year so we would be able to see some adult males of Brachypelma. unfortunately in this time many Aphonopelma sp. allready plugged the burrow and were nowhere to be found.


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That sounds like a heck of a trip. I would have really enjoyed doing something like that. Everything but the caves.

Eddie are the last two photos of the same scorpion?

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Hi all:

Eddy, I'll comment to the genus level with the scorpions but let Carlos and Oscar Id them at UNAM.

Vaejovis
Alacran
Hadrurus aztecas (?)
Diplocentrus
Centruroides
Vaejovis
Centruroides (2) bicolor(?)
Diplocentrus (3) male
Centruroides (2)

Alacran is such a unique genus but the pedipalp chela fingers in the photo seem odd-thin compared to images I've seen before.
Great photos at AB and reminds me of the Chihuahua, Durango and part Zacatecas trip we (Kari McWest) had years ago with Sissom and Oscar's students. See link and powerpoint link.
http://research.amnh.org/users/lorenzo/ ... ml#Durango

Great that you all had a great time in ol' Mexico~

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 Post subject: Re: Some Mexican scorpions.
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Hi Chad, as mentioned, all specimens are at the UNAM. So i'm sure the true ID will come out eventually.

thanks again!

Eddy

i hope to go back to Mexico again this year. that country is just too big and too divers.


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Sweet! Chad told me about these! Eddy, are you able to put localities with each image? Then I can get a better clue. But the second one looks like Syntropis from Baja! Where did that beast come from?!?! =)


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Hi Kari,

yes, i should have the locations. i will have to check my gps. i will let you know in PM, as i don't want the info on the board.

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Great stuff, yes, localities would help.

Habitat photos?

Thanks for sharing,

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 Post subject: Re: Some Mexican scorpions.
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vaejovis sp. #1
i dont know what sp. #2
Hadrurus sp. #3
diplocentrus sp. #4
Centruroides nigrescens #5 #12 and #13
im not sure on this sp. #6
Centruroides margaritatus immature #7 and #8
diplocentrus for sure #9 #10 and #11

just a guess but cool scorps that must have been fun


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The second one, the really cool skinny guy, has been confirmed by Dr. Oscar Francke as the ultra-rare <i>Vaejovis gracilis</i>.
I can only get them to genus, like the rest of us, without the critters in hand and locality data.
But here's my list:
1) Vaejovis cf coahuilae (not known form locales visited)
2) Vaejovis gracilis
3) Hadrurus aztecus or gertschi (called Hoffmannihadrurus by Soleglad & Fet, but I synonymized that genus back to Hadrurus in 2009)
4) Diplocentrus
5) Centruroides
6) Vaejovis sp., likely new, looks related to V. subcristatus
7, 8) Centruroides, looks like bicolor, limpidus, or margaritatus: I am in no uncertain terms an expert on MesoAmerican Centruroides!
9, 10, 11) Diplocentrus, could be new
The last two are of course, Centruroides: refer to previous statement! :)

Centruroides are actually much harder to identify unless you really know the locale.


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 Post subject: Re: Some Mexican scorpions.
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some more scorpions from the west coast of Mexico

Enjoy
Eddy

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 Post subject: Re: Some Mexican scorpions.
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OK, not Mexico... Guatemala... close enough!

Enjoy

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