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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:13 pm |
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I love those. The death feigning is really convincing.
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:08 pm |
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The new eggs have hatched. No signs of pupation yet.
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:41 pm |
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Wade Harrell wrote: I love those. The death feigning is really convincing.
Wade Wade, Yes, they are one of my favorite insects. Peter talked about how great they were but I did not really appreciate them until I put them on my office desk. Now I watch them a lot. Probably too much. 
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:26 am |
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I'm not that familiar with these but they are quite pretty. Does the death feint involve being on their back?
The last pic of the solfugid prior to her dropping the eggs almost makes me feel sorry for her. The pressure has to be tremendous. I always thought it was next to impossible to keep these for long let alone breed them. Nice work MrCrackerpants.
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Wade Harrell
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:49 am |
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The death feining is actually quite convincing, legs curled in and everything!
Tenebrionid beetles in general make neat captives. Few are as colorful as these guys though. I wouldn't mind finding a few in AZ this year.
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:07 am |
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Wade Harrell wrote: The death feining is actually quite convincing, legs curled in and everything!
Tenebrionid beetles in general make neat captives. Few are as colorful as these guys though. I wouldn't mind finding a few in AZ this year.
Wade Any idea what specific Sonoran Desert habitat they live in?
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:11 am |
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Patrick wrote: The last pic of the solfugid prior to her dropping the eggs almost makes me feel sorry for her. The pressure has to be tremendous. I always thought it was next to impossible to keep these for long let alone breed them. Nice work MrCrackerpants. Thanks. She and the eggs died but I have a juvenile in a was very small pill bottle about the same diameter as its body. It has been doing really well for a month now. This minimal enclosure was suggested. I think it is working. It has also been suggested to feed them very little and I have been doing this.
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:10 am |
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MrCrackerpants wrote: Wade Harrell wrote: The death feining is actually quite convincing, legs curled in and everything!
Tenebrionid beetles in general make neat captives. Few are as colorful as these guys though. I wouldn't mind finding a few in AZ this year.
Wade Any idea what specific Sonoran Desert habitat they live in? No, usuallly when I've seen them they were collected by other people. Wade
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:27 am |
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Sorry to hear you lost the big female and all of the eggs. I thought breeding tarantulas was iffy, wouldn't stand a chance with these I tell ya.
Thanks for answering my question. I wouldn't mind finding a few of these myself in AZ.
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:29 am |
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Wade Harrell wrote: MrCrackerpants wrote: Wade Harrell wrote: The death feining is actually quite convincing, legs curled in and everything!
Tenebrionid beetles in general make neat captives. Few are as colorful as these guys though. I wouldn't mind finding a few in AZ this year.
Wade Any idea what specific Sonoran Desert habitat they live in? No, usuallly when I've seen them they were collected by other people. Wade Thanks.
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:30 am |
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Patrick wrote: Sorry to hear you lost the big female and all of the eggs. I thought breeding tarantulas was iffy, wouldn't stand a chance with these I tell ya.
Thanks for answering my question. I wouldn't mind finding a few of these myself in AZ. No problem.
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:42 pm |
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UPDATE: Still no adult beetles. Currently, I have 3 larva that are 1.5 inches. Any suggestions? : )
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:17 pm |
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I may just take a long time, the adults are vey long-lived (10 years + in some cases) so it wouldn't surprise me if larval development were slow as well. Is the substrate something that's compactable? I know some tenibs build pupal chambers, not sure if that's the case here. Also, there's a book on rearing darkiling beetles available here that might have helpful info: http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/elytraandantenna/Wade
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:39 am |
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MrCrackerpants wrote: UPDATE: Still no adult beetles. Currently, I have 3 larva that are 1.5 inches. Any suggestions? : ) Hey Mr, I wish I did. Nearly all the information out there, aside from Orin's book, is on Tenebrio molitor which doesn't have a comparable life span(from what I know, anyway). I'll echo Wade on the lifespan/development question. I still have numbers of larvae multiplying in the communal Teneb tank, but of course no idea which species the larvae may be...I need a better camera to get the details and have yet to ID each species that lives inside. Quite a few are at that same size and late at night I find many of them feeding on the remains of food left for adults. In fact, I think they eat much more than the adults. No pupation here, either. Good luck! John
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:24 am |
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Thanks Wade and John. Yes, the sub was compactable. I recently dug very deep (8 inches) into the substrate and found many dead larvae. Also found that the adults had eaten a few that had died and dried out.
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:18 pm |
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I've had similar experiences with Eleodes. I usually manage to raise some of them, but nowhere near the number that occur. Now that I live in the range of E. obscurus I'm hoping to raise the larvae as feeders for other stuff!
Some species might pupate inside of dead wood, or there could be a seasonal change that you would have simulate to get them to pupate. I would check out that book if you haven't already. Since I don't own it myself (I need to get it though) I don't know if the exact info you need concrning this species is in there, but I'm certain that it will have lots of great info on raising tenibs in general and that can't hurt!
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:40 am |
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Thanks, Wade. I set up a few more environments with varying humidity, substrate, etc. Interestingly, the only larvae that has survived is in a bran, oat, dog food dry substrate with an organic apple wedge. So far, so good. The larva is 1.5 inches.
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Post subject: Re: Blue Death Feigning Beetle Larvae and Eggs  Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:23 am |
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They all died. I am giving up on getting this species to reproduce in captivity. I can't figure them out. If you get them to reproduce please let us know what you did. Thank.
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