YEE HAW its been a good night blacklighting i counted 40 U.mordax, mostly males, 4.2.1 Paruroctonus ssp, and one of these Vaejovis

Very nice!!!! Id like to see more of the U. mordax in the trade. Theyre commonly found but hard to find through dealers/breeders.

..interesting.
What is the habitat type? Are you finding these overlapping with the Paruroctonus spp. and V. "confusus"?

I love observing such dense aggregations. I was out at a Serradigitus site the other evening and collected non but saw around ten, in small patches widely spread out from each other. But this number is considered 'dense' in this particular area with this particular species, so other than having to literally creep under DENSE swarms of mosquitos* i was stoked.

Zach

this is the "confusus" guy:)

are you refering to the photo?

yes that is the sucker

eusthenura is hands down my favorite subfamily! With the Serradigitus genus coming second.
Too bad i'm not better educated, Warren Savary jokingly asked me if i wanted to take on the confusus complex. If only huh. Then he asked me if i was prone to suicide. Me part of REVSYS, how dang cool would that be.
By the way Mike if you ever by chance have some of these die (or any other scorpion) i would be greatly interested! I'll even pay you for some.
Some of people looked at me weird at the conference when i asked them if they had any dried or preserved specimens to sell.

thanks

Zach

Hello,
I am new to this site!But it is quickly becoming my fav.But I just wanted to let everyone know that if you are looking for some U.mordax?Just let me know and give me a couple of weeks and I will get as many as you want! I will trade them for other scorps or sell them for 6$ apiece.But if you want alot of them.The price will go down! There is no limit to how many you can get from me.In 2 hours 1 day I found 60+ adults.

Thank You,
Darren

Sorry!I think I should of put this in the for sale forum!

Thanks for the info. I would be very interested in some preserved specimens if you have any die. As mentioned i would be willing to pay.
Also you might consider donating some to the REVSYS project.
Anyone that can, should help out with this amazing revision of north american Veajovidae.

One other thing to keep in mind is to pay attention to conservation. Although it may seem they are 'over abundant' in some areas aggregations can be sensitive to specimen removal. Especially on large scales. I know some people would pay you a sum of cash to collect everyone in sight.
ONE large collection trip can prove devastating to an areas fauna, plus you would be surprise how long it can take for an area to recover from a single collecting trip.
Try to collect a minimal number, spread out your collecting spots, and donate a couple to the guys at the American Museum of Natural History in New York.
They would prefer live specimens to ensure DNA protection. Kari will give you further insight on the details of shippment if you decide so.
Please keep your wits about you on this subject.


thanks, and goodluck.

Zach

Hello,
I would love to donate some!!So just let me now were to send them.And just to let you know I never collect all the scorps I see.I usally dont collect the gravid females and I collect then all over the valley I live in.I try to spred it out so I dont collect to many from 1 spot.

You will most likely need to send them to Lorenzo Prendini at the AMNH.
We will have Kari Mcwest contact to for shipping details and address.
In the meantime if you have any die, i will take those for morphological comparisons/study.
I trust you are diligent in your field adventures, just making sure we are all aware of keeping a conservational mindset. Perhaps other listening minds will take this idea into consideration for the future aswell.

thanks,

Zach

if I do have any die they are yours.I wont even charge you for them.All you have to do is pay for the shipping.But just to let you know I bairly ever have any die.But I do have a dried M.martensii if you want it.

sounds great, i will contact you privately on how/where to ship the dried M. martensii.

thanks alot,
Zach